What if the US federal administration decided that the global situation was too volatile to allow a changing of the guard and they rigged the election?
How hard could it be? Four years ago just nine men chose a president.
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That was my thinking actually.
I’m not sure how much of a push electronic voting has received, but it’d be a lot easier to rig votes with those things.
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I know! I was thinking of just such a thing the other day too. Like what if Bush didn’t want to leave? (clearly he doesn’t anyway) Seriously, how would you make him?
Courts this or courts that, it would take military force. In some respects I suppose the USA is closer now to a dictatorship than democracy.
That’s along the same train of thought I’ve been having. He’s telling his country he’s the only one standing between them and the world and they’re missing the fact that he’s the one bringing the world down on them. GlobalVote gave Kerry over 70%. Bush needs to maintain power through fear or people will start listening to the voices of reason outside his borders and he’ll be out of a job. History will show Bush as the most damaging and manipulative president to date. I don’t think there’s any question of that. We just have to get there.
Geez, you guys are really grasping here.
People are still grasping over the Kennedy assassination but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
… I forgot to mention that Kerry creeps me out. I wouldn’t vote for him either. If he were a Jehovah’s Witness, I would tell him that my hose by the front door sprayed blood, red and pure. but that’s because I’m mean to people who look like Jay Leno with an extra chin or two.
granted, Bush isn’t exactly who I’d pick either, but aren’t we deciding between the lesser of two evils here? I don’t think people so much as voted FOR one candidate as they voted AGAINST the other.
the system is enormously flawed, that’s a given – anything created by men, primarily *still* catering to the middle to upper class white male landowners can be nothing but flawed.
I agree with gurton in the fact that it is more of a dictatorship than a democracy, because while we as a people can vote him into office, we certainly can’t do anything about him once he’s there. we can’t force him, or ask him or vote against him, or veto him from making bad decisions (pardon me, decisions the majority of citizens disagree with). Should we put everything to the vote? Every tuesday, another issue to vote on at the polls…
If we had more of a ‘say’ in how things were run, would it be different? Or would it truly erupt into a sovereign state – voter intimidation and the like? unfortunately, this is the reality we live in. and frankly – I don’t see much difference between staying here and say – moving to France. Granted, I’ve been working on my french, but can I be guaranteed I’ll be able to live the same life with the same rights and privilages?
again, it’s down to the ‘lesser of two evils’.
I get the impression she didn’t vote.
Kerry just sounds different because he talks sense.
The problem with Bush, which I grant you may not be able to see so well living inside the country, is that he frankly doesn’t care about the rest of the planet. His mouth is spouting “respect” while he tramples through everyone else’s beliefs and rights. He says he wants to bring democracy to the rest of the world but he’s already proven the lie. It’s not democracy he’s bringing. It’s American ideology. There’s a difference.
He doesn’t have any interest in taking the time to meet anyone on equal terms because he’s bought completely into the American hype. If you’re #1 why try harder?
Meanwhile the rest of the world just builds in resentment.
My suggestion for an alternative is Kerry. Nader is an economist and an idealist: probably not a great choice. But Kerry at least is aware of cultures outside his own. And that counts huge in my book.
If Bush at least could take care of his own I might forgive him for ignoring the rest of the world for anything except what they can do for him. But so far he’s let you down. The economy is slithering around like a wounded animal and he’s sending more jobs outside your country. Education and social services continue to lose funding.
He’s Walmart. Short-sighted and selfish.
KERRY doubletalks?! KERRY lies? Well, I guess you’ve got another four years to figure this one out.
Part of me is hoping he’ll turn out more like his father, who had some morals at least. another part of me doesn’t think we’ve had it SO bad these last four years that I would trust anyone new – stick with the evil you already know, in a way.
what else can we do? vote Nader? scream for impeachment and let Cheney take over? Run for president myself? as big and beautiful as the land of the free and the home of the brave is – we don’t really have that many options.
give us some suggestions, o’ sister Canada.
again, good points. and I’m not entirely unaware of these facts. I’m partially biased (and I hate, hate, hate to admit this) because of how much I care about and respect my grandparents. They are hard-core republicans (although, to date, I’ve never seen my grandmother topless with her tummy painted with a big red R at a rally, but there is time yet).
They have raised me with the ideals and beliefs and morals of all southern republicans, and you’re right – living here, within it and among it all doesn’t help me harbor deep sentiment for anything outside that carefully cultivated line.
However, I find myself at a crossroads because on one hand, I argue the point that votes count and WE as a people can make a difference…etc. BUT that niggling little suspicion and doubt is growing in my mind – what if it’s all just some game? they just pass the money around while everyone else gets the shaft. well, yippie for you, mr. senator from where-ever, but when do the real Americans get a stand, or a say so?
Yes, I voted. and yes, technically, I threw my vote away. I saw no real need to vote for either one. I feel it was rigged in some way, so it didn’t really matter. …but yes, I lied to my poor granddad. “Yes, grandaddy, of course I voted for Bush!”
So, again, I sigh heavily and ask of you your suggestions. I understand your sentiments, and your good intentions and your unbiased eye, and I envy you for them – but what am *I* left with in this situation?
*on a side note, I figured if I was sneaking around here, not so stealthily, I might as well see what everyone else was up to and read thirty-sixes post from nerve.com, the letter from little sis canada. it made sense, sadly.
whatever gave you that idea? I voted. But I wrote in the name I wanted for president. Personally, I think Jesse “The Body” Ventura would be a great president. I figured if they have the space provided for you to choose option “D”, then you may as well utilize your right to personal freedom of speech.
and kerry doesn’t talk sense. he speaks the language of ‘double talk’ and is a lying, two-faced bastard. his wife … well, lets just say it starts with a C and rhymes with something you do to a football.
**sorry for the harsh language, but I feel that if Kerry had won, we would be far worse off than we are now. Personal opinion, of course.
I’m far from unbiased, toki. I want the most powerful country in the world to elect a president that is aware of his position and responsibility not only to his country, but as president of the most powerful country in the world.
Sadly, we’ve just seen that fear is a more powerful motivator than common sense.