The two largest forest fires in BC right now were started by careless smokers. I hope they were employed in forestry. With large families. And I hope they know it was them.
But by all means, keep smoking. Smoke yourself into an early grave & get the hell off my planet.
Ummmmmm…. your planet?
COMMENT:
Yes, our planet. Go back to ‘small-mind-world’ will you?
Mischiff: there is a little universal justice here. Some dude on a local reservation threw his smoke off his deck (!?) and his (obviously well maintained) yard went up in flames and burnt down his house.
If you are that stupid you get what you get.
Buddyboy. Yes MY PLANET. Jesus bloody Christ you idiotic punk. Get your head out of your ass! MY PLANET! As in- I take responsibility for my actions on it, and I do what I can to help others in that same positive direction. MY FUCKING PLANET! Go away. You’re a fucking tool.
Buddyboy: Fuck off.
K, we’re done with you. Thanks for playing. Take your copy of the home game and knock yourself out. Bbye.
Now, I know I don’t have to justify my actions on my own blog, but I’ll give the rest of you this much: if the only point of your presence here is to be a contentious pain in the ass, without pause for consideration of my position or even the facts, should I waste my time on you?
Get a grip dudes. Just as many fires are started by idiots who don’t know how to put out their campfires. Smokers have a right to do whatever the fuck they want with their bodies. I don’t smoke… never have, but where’s all the visceral hatred coming from? Oh… and you want their “large families” to suffer too? Why don’t we just put smokers in a big gas chamber and exterminate them…. you’d make Hitler proud. In my “small-mind-world” smokers have a place too.
Umm… I stand corrected?
*reads again, and again, and again…*
Dude… harshnesss…
Ok sure… started by smokers, but I CERTIANLY don’t wish the results of this upon their families. Jesus fuck. Barrier/McLure will be DEVASTATED by this… oh trust me I know… we were chomping at the bit to get up there to help my aunt try to save her farm… luckily it was spared, but not so lucky for other homes nor the mill which basically employees the community. It will SUCK to come home to no home no job and no insurance coverage.
So it was started by a careless smoker, and he/she should be responsible… OBVIOUSLY… but I can guaranteeee you they didn’t want THIS.
We have NO hopes of rain over the next few days, and only thunderstorms on forcast for tonight… Fuck, I just watched 3 bolts hit the mountain today at work.
… it’s HARSH!
While I think smoking (among other things) is gross…but I don’t want them to curl up and die… and I don’t want them to EVER go through what some of the families are going through in our neck of the woods.
… but people who can’t put out the campfires and start forest fires should ROAST in hell. Stupidity get’s what it deserves.
Jonathan, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. In the same post where you forgive smokers for being careless you damn campers for the same casual attitude?
Slow down, speed racer. Let’s get on the same page, yeah?
it was sarcasm.
just something to ponder DJ:
“block IP address.”
next time you are in a smokers car, look in their ashtray. It is usually clean, because most smokers just throw their butts out the window.
One drunk night I threw one back in some guys car. “Here, you dropped something.”
I think I should encourage this behaviour.
Another similar anecdote, motorcycle riders fear cigarettes flicked out windows very much. Imagine getting one stuck in your shirt/pants/shoes/collar/helmet… ouch…
Oh yeah, BuddyBoy… I love how you change positions. You really are out to annoy people. First you argue about the “your planet” line. Then, once that’s been finished, you just move right on to the “sure I don’t like smokers, but who pissed in your cornflakes and why do you want to get their families too?” without a second thought.
Oh yeah, and even though it’s been mentioned more than once, the reason most people don’t like smokers is because of what happens to their environment. It smells and causes lung cancer. I really don’t care about the choices that someone else makes, until they affect me. Once those choices affect me, I’d like to have my say in the matter.
That’s been my point all along, Chu. I couldn’t care less if people want to slowly choke the life out of themselves. There are a few smokers out there I care a lot about, but all I can do is educate them. No one’s going to quit until they’re ready and bringing out their stubborn streak is just going to slow things down.
The issue I have is that it’s not just about them. When I breathe someone else’s smoke I get ALL their problems, and I didn’t choose them. Damn straight that makes me angry. In the exact same way that my right to peace will always supercede your right to disturb that peace, my right to clean air will always give me the right to ask you to take your filthy habit elsewhere.
So don’t anybody bother acting surprised when I show so little tolerance for smokers. Smokers, as a group, have done absolutely nothing to deserve tolerance.
*snicker* smoothly plugged, old friend, smoothly plugged.
me and my new domain (davin.ws) are disgusted by this act of carelessness. one more reason not to put fire in your face!
This is much nicely put (minus the dismissive comments at the end).
…. er “roast this FOREST to the ground”
That’s the level-headed human compassion coming out. I’d say the initial reaction is that of DJ’s, but as you think about it more, you really have nothing against their family or them… just their carelessness and stupidity. I agree with you there.
.. Slowed down…
Ok, while I agree that I have a right to clean air yada yada yada. And it IS disgusting that carelessness causes severe consequences. And if the person respsonsible was thinking “YA, let’s roast this fire to the ground”, then he should be roasted too.
MY contention is the comment about “hoping they work in forestry and that they have large families”. I hope the dude DOESN’T have a large family. I hope he DOESN’T have kids or a wife or a brother who works at the mill who lost everything.
It’s a bit sad that I have to drag myself through this, but:
While I do not wish undue suffering on anyone, I would very much like the people responsible for these disasters to feel punishment to an appropriate scale. In an ideal world, the guilty party would perceive himself to be the cause of widespread suffering though his casual stupidity, and his remorse would be punishment enough.
Figuratively, I would deem it appropriate if his perception was that of his own family suffering because of his actions. Realistically, what the hell do you think I am? Can you seriously have drawn the conclusion that I would inflict suffering on the innocent? Have you read my blog?
Seriously now, can we please move on?
Point taken. I’m all about reciprocation.
My hometown – Penticton – 1994. The Garnet Fire raged within 150 metres from my house, destroyed 19 homes (but strangely spared the Penticton Speedway…) and decimated more than 6,500 hectares of forest in four days. The culprit – a 16 year old firebug with a new zippo lighter and some lighter fluid playing in the ravine.
A friend tipped off the police, after hearing the kid talk about what he’d done, once the fire had already crawled up the mountainside, threatening to burn down his own house. When the public found out, you can imagine the outcry. One camp said that he should be responsible for all of the damage he incurred (I can’t remember the figure, but it was more than a million $) and personally apologize to all of the people he left homeless. The other camp said that he shouldn’t take all the blame, he’s just a kid who doesn’t know any better. In the end, he admitted he’d set the fires, but claimed temporary insanity, didn’t apologize and no one ever filed any charges against him because he was was a minor.
Two years later, at 18, he burned down the family garage.
I commute up and down this island all day, and I see a lot of careless people tossing their butts out their windows, and every time I see it I get angry. In a rage, I asked a smoker friend why she did it, and she told me that she didn’t want to lower the resale value of her car by keeping cigarette butts in it. Apparently that’s more important. Foolish me.
Smokers tossing their butts out the window are just like the Penticton firestarter – neither of them take personal responsibility for their actions.